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dikjuh



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PostPosted: Fri Jun 05, 2009 6:41 pm    Post subject: hi Reply with quote

Hello I was just stealing some gold with my thieves so my thief would gain xp for the next nobility title, when i suddenly got this message;

"cheater"

What is that supposed to mean?

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PostPosted: Fri Jun 05, 2009 7:56 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

That happens when you click the "Begin Mission" button too fast while the previous page is still loading.

The game assumes you are using some sort of script/cheat to automatically spy/attack and sends you to that page so that it stops.

All you have to do is press back on you browser and enter to refresh it.
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PostPosted: Sat Jun 06, 2009 1:20 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ah allright, thanks for the answer Smile
I usually don't have this kind of errors, but my girlfriend is downloading a lot lately so the internet tends to get a bit slower.

next time i'll just pause the downloads before I go and spy people Cool

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PostPosted: Sun Jun 07, 2009 7:41 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

No problem Wink
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PostPosted: Tue Jun 09, 2009 7:31 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I will just post here again to avaid myself making too much threads haha.
Yesterday I was spying and i had ;

-Available spy missions: 80/80 spy missions per turn = 8

Today I leveld up and I had 2 spy mission researches done, yet now I have;

-Available spy missions: 70/70 spy missions per turn = 7

What happened?
Aren't they supposed to go up after researching? Or does a level up effect spy missions so dramatically that it actually goes down even after you have done a couple of spy mission researches?

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PostPosted: Tue Jun 09, 2009 10:55 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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2009-06-09

* Spy - spying only available from level 7(up from level 1)


Levelling up does give you a higher limit of spy missions and more spy missions / turn.
I can only assume bashar did some tweaks in the spying formulas.
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PostPosted: Tue Jun 09, 2009 11:35 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

yes
the idea is that the formula depends on the number of players that are in range of spying.

Higher in level, less players in range and spy missions will drop.

if you are interested the base formula is this:

$nr_spy_mission_turn=min(5+floor($hero->level()/2), ceil($players_in_range_of_attack*0.10));

then at $nr_spy_mission_turn bonuses from research, season and so on are added.

so lets say that you are level 50 and there are 100 players in range of attack(6 levels above or below you)
$nr_spy_mission_turn=min((5+50/2), 0.10*100)=min(30,10)=10
then bonuses from research and other stuff will come

lets say that you are level 60 and there are 50 players in range of attack(6 levels above or below you)
$nr_spy_mission_turn=min((5+60/2), 0.10*50)=min(35,5)=5
then bonuses from research and other stuff will come

So even with research higher then when you were lower level the spy missions will drop.
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PostPosted: Wed Jun 10, 2009 12:09 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks for the replies John and Bashar,
I will read that last post tomorrow again, it's past 12 am now and I'm very tired so it confuses me atm haha.
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PostPosted: Fri Sep 25, 2009 8:21 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Allright, next question, i apologise if I am being a pain Razz

it is "winter" now in the game.
It "gives" +10% spy offense and -10% spy defense.
Yet I am losing more ops?

Autumn gave +20% spy offense.

Unless they have such an insignificant amount of spy def, I thought I should be winning some more ops?
And if they do have such an insignificant amount of def, i should be winning anyways? xD

I am not talking about the people I know are active btw, just the inactives.
(or they appear to be inactive and I just never noticed that :p But their def never increases, allways good gains, no titles, maybe I am just making wrong conclusions?)

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PostPosted: Fri Sep 25, 2009 1:59 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Well the difference between between your spy offense and enemy spy defense only gives a bonus of 15% at best.

So if you have 10.000 spy offense and the enemy would have only 1000 spy defence, the coefficent will be:
15*10000/(10000+1000)= 13.63


in this way if the enemy has almost the same defence as you offence (lets say you have 1001 and your enemy only 1000 defence )the coefficent will be:
15*1001/(1001+1000) = 7.50

so this coefficent varies between 7.5 - 15

for instance luck coefficient can be anywhere between 0-40.


In conclusion probably you are just unlucky Sad
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PostPosted: Fri Sep 25, 2009 4:39 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Haha yeah that answer suits me well.
Don't have much luck lately with anything xD
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