Working on RPG part of the Game (Quests)

[decim8tor]

Hi, from on this is the part of the RPG issues and new ideas will be posted. So feel free to give suggestions.

[nightvol]

that's great, quests can be very cool.
for exemple : some big flame throwing dragon appers and threatens all the players so there goes the quest: if someone kills the dragon gets a bunch of experience and gains control of the dragon's treasure - that can be either a big amount of money or a "chest"/mine that gives a hefty income every turn.
but this should be done so everyone can do that. not only the guys that are most advanced and with the biggest offense so : spies can be sent first to poison the dragon or smth and weaken him than that low level guy can attack him with his small army and still win ( if a guy gets to poison the dragon, no one else can attack the dragon and take advantage of the other guy's spies - this implements another utility for the spies as well as i say they should be enabled to steal money and wood and stone as well). this will make the spies more valuable for the "little guys"
well, this is my first ideea of a quest, i'll post more if i can think of them

[decim8tor]

Good point there nightvol. But this kind of quests are about 1% of what I am planning to implement. I'm talking about real rpg with a main story and other little/long/boring/exciting stories. I'm thinking about something like D&D a real RPG where u can buy special weapons, kill special monsters, lose units, slay dragons for blood teeth scales and claws. I'm talking about a real RPG.
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[nightvol]

but a REAL RPG is not played with armies. at most is played in parties. maybe you want a game like warcraft III ?
than we come up with a main story
than we put the races by alignament - good and evil (no neuters for now it's to complicated )
than everyone decides what he wants to be, good or evil
than we implement the main story - the bad guys come and are devastating the land and then the good guys have to drive them back to the depths of hell (or where they came from)
so: the bad guys start with a default army, 'cuz they're the invaders but get penalties for gold/turn 'cuz they don't really care for farming and things like that - they are mainly offensive players. the good guys start with more land and get bonuses for production, but for the start, they are the lambs so mainly defensive players - just for start - and bad guys get to farm and other things but with penalties (just making sure you understand ) so this is the MAIN quest : good guys have to defeat bad guys and free their land. but this won't be done with direct attacks, not at first. but rather by having side quests like - sabotage evil doers' farming and military. making guerilla attacks against border lands and killing raiding parties of the evil guys. then there goes other quests like killing dragons and other, picking up special weapons that give bonuses to either one of the stats, or in ogl/turn - that the easy part (the one with the bonuses) -so i end here this post 'cuz i don't know if this is what you want with your game. and i said ther"we put" i meant you, but i got carried away

[landros]

ore you just want a roleplay? because thats kind of what a roleplay is you know? but nightvol its right...it hasn't got anyting to do with armies...
role plays are often played on forums...not on MMORPG's...I've actualy got no idea of how you could implement such a ting in the game...

[oranz^]

I got one idea (that was my first idea for MMORPG but i never start makeing). My english is not very good so if You don't understand something just say and I explain

1.Game is divide on era (new era become when special grup of guest is finish). Noone know what era is next (only GO - game operators).
2.Any new era brings new good things and bad things for races.
example: one of the quest from last era was - serching for Kings Corona. If player who play Orcs make this quest he could choose one thing with appear in new era, for example: Green races have x1,5 modifer for population per turn.
3. Not only one quest decided what kind of era is next. Many types of quests and players decisions what to choose give new plot for next era.
4. If players faild all quest (or succes quest ratio is 15% or below) GO can make Dark era (it's type of era when all bad things are hapend. Monsters attack cities and castles, Gods turn back to their followers, it's one big chaos on the world). Players must armistice and teamwork for conquer this one big chaos and make new, better era.

What do You thing about it?

[bashar]

Global things happening to all players will make the game more dinamic.

there will be religion with blessing and curseing that will effect only a certain player but there wil be some global events too.

Quests are difficult to implement in a web based game so maybe another idea how to trigger those global events(Dark era and things like that)

[oranz^]

Got another idea for global events. In Attack menu make one more option - Great Battle. When players choose this optiom they could enter to any big battles vs others players or computers enemys. This are examples:

Dark Lord battle (CPU vs players)
any player (level restriction) who want enter this battle can choose:
- spy (spy for how big CPU army is)
- join (join the battle)
If player choose 'join' he have choice how manny and what type of units he want send to fight. Next choice is what kind of fighting style army make:
- aggressive (units use offence modyficator for attack)
- defensive (units use defence modyficator for attack)
- last man standing (units fight to last man standing in your or opponent army; using normaly attacks)
- to half army (if half of your army send to great battle gets killd units automaticly retreat).
Now player can press "send" button and great battle start in next turn. Only one fight progress in one turn in great battle. After sending army to fight any time player enter great battles menu he can see noew details and buttons:
- how manny and what type of his/her units fighting in battle
- what comrade-in-arms players join this fight *
- how manny fights was fight off and how manny exp player gaind
- how manny and what type of goodies player obtain (like: gold, weapons/armors, wood, rocks, population **)
- retreat (player can retreat units from battle in any time but army back to castle in next turn - only half of obtaind goodies player take)
- send more (send more units)

* - any numbers of players can join great battle in comrade-in-arms mode (players choose side of battle but if battle is in 'vs CPU' mode players can join only one side). Players cant join started battle only in one case: when next turn could be finnaly turn of great battle.
** - for any time when units win fight they obtain exp but sometimes they can obtain goodies like a bonus for exp (war booty) but player gain it only when army backs from battle (iall units die = no booty - that don't refer exp). Population bonus can appear oonly in players vs players battle.

For winning battle players who stay alive to the end get extra exp points and Quests points.

But what if no players want enter Great battle - "Dark Lord"?
Any round number of chaos army increase (like population ***), and if it reach twice number of hugest player army in game it start 'Dark era' (from now on random numbers of players are attacking by random number of Dark Lord army in any turn). Players can stop this era joining Great Battle - "Dark Lord" and wining it.

*** - number of increase units on turn approximate base(for example:100) x 10% of acttualy number of units. Any player who join great battle decrease this number of population of 5% ((100x10%)-5% of result for one player; ((100x10%)-5% of result)-5% of result fof two players etc.).

When player send units to Great battle they need some gold and food to take from granery.
Player can see in main menu on the left side of screen number of units in this style: Archers 100(190), Longbowman 20(160) etc. First number is how manny units he/she got in castle and second in ( ) is how manny units he/she got tottal (in castle and battles).

What do You think about it?

[bashar]

i like your ideas

Greate battle must be in the game


Dark Lord battle (CPU vs players) - it's ok

what about players vs players ?

i was thinking after you decide to fight in a battle(players vs players) to be only 2 camps and you will choose in what camp you will fight for
The battles will take place every week even if the envolved armies are too small.
If you win the plunder to be divided accordingly to the number of troops sent.

[bele]

[bashar]

y you are right

[oranz^]

[bashar]

well i like those guilds

a while ago when i wanted to make alliences i wanted to do something similar but because then there were other things that had to be done i didn't done those alliences