Wealthiest Kingdom

artemis · Joined: 21 Feb 2005 Posts: 14

I may be mistaking, but this top is absolutely useless... as is the very poor/poor/... statistic in the attack screen. There are people that can't login to this game every hour and they are at a big disadvantage due to these 2 "wealth statistics"...

OK, it's nice to know... he's very rich, let's crush him... but a player that logs in once every hour will be very poor all the time... while being on top. A player that logs in once per day will amass a great quantity of gold, get in the Top10 Wealthiest and get crushed by some powerful attacker.

It's not that it isn't fair, it's just absurd. I might have another idea, though you may not be interested, I will still post it here. Evaluate every unit and every building in this game (ie: elite archer=500, champion=550... etc) and calculate a player's wealth by the number of buildings and units he owns, not by the ammount of gold he has atm.

Example:

X has just created his account, has 0 units, 0 buildings, he gets all of his 100.000 gold from his bank and suddenly he's rich... and his value is the ammount of gold he has...

and my idea is:

X has a total value of 0 (because he has 0 units, 0 buildings). X trains 50 elite archers and builds several buildings. His new value is calculated like this: (Number of Elite Archers)*(Elite Archer Value) + (Number of Houses)*(House Value) + (Number of LumberYards)*(LumberYard Value) + ...

This way we'll see a much better representation of one's actual value in this game. Sorry for the large post, this is just an opinion.

budist · Joined: 12 Feb 2005 Posts: 94

it may disadvantage players now, just let the game to expand, in the future it will really show something.

artemis · Joined: 21 Feb 2005 Posts: 14

It will still only show the ammount of gold that player has at a certain time, not the true value of his Kingdom...

budist · Joined: 12 Feb 2005 Posts: 94

yes, and that's the point

artemis · Joined: 21 Feb 2005 Posts: 14

Well I find it very interesting that it is more important to wait on the Top screen with the Refresh button pressed until some poor s*cker gets his hands on some cash so you can sack him and collect all of it... than to know the value of one's Kingdom and try to make it harder for attackers to find targets. But I guess we're all romanian... if it's easy, we like it...

budist · Joined: 12 Feb 2005 Posts: 94

only now disadvantages, but levels will spread, not everybody can atack everybody, and things will change, let the game develop by itself.

and i agree, new players should have a protection of 24 hours.

artemis · Joined: 21 Feb 2005 Posts: 14

Not too many people interested in new ideas I see... Are we the only ones trying to actually SAY something around here, budist ? Well, at least 2 is better than none...

Yes the 24 hour protection is a MUST. Also, about the gold/value thing... I agree, let's see how things go and argue about it later Very Happy

Another idea... well, actually I'm working on a game similar to RaceConflicts myself... almost done, still need hosting and stuff... there's another thing that bothers me about RaceConflicts that I've treated in a different manner in my game... Spies. There should be a limit to the number of spy ops you can do at a certain time. Let's say... you have a spy strength (or however you may want to call it) of 100%... every spy op you perform on another player should cost you... let's say... 8% of your spy strength. When you reach 30% spy strength (or 20 or 40 or whatever), your spies are not powerful enough to perform any other spy op... So you have to wait. On every turn you recover... let's say 6% of your spy strength. I think this should make things a lot more interesting... don't you think? I'll come back with more ideas as soon as I get some.

PS: By the way, if you do like the Gold stats... why not have both a Gold and a Kingdom Value stats somewhere in the attack screen? Sort the players by the Hero level if you have to... and for those with equal levels sort by their Kingdom Value... this would also be interesting imho.

artemis · Joined: 21 Feb 2005 Posts: 14

And btw... I still say: REMOVE the "Wealthiest Player" stats in the Rankings page, please... it's making the game a "sit and wait" type... if that's what you want then just create a "delete account" button somewhere cause I ain't just gonna sit around for players like Vessslan that just sits on the Rankings page pressing F5 every minute waiting for any other player to get some cash... only to attack them 5 seconds after. If you think this is fun to play... then play it. BIG DISSAPOINTMENT if you don't remove that stats. Rolling Eyes

artemis · Joined: 21 Feb 2005 Posts: 14

PS: Vessslan, don't misunderstand... I have nothing against you... but this game needs serious re-thinking... just my 2 cents.
PPS: Man, you do have a lot of Champions, don't you Mr. Green

vessslan · Joined: 22 Feb 2005 Posts: 7

I've nothing to say for myself Crying or Very sad

still, camping isn't cool either Surprised

I basically agree with most of what you're saying but.. I guess u're only looking at it from the defender's point of view. You should make the game more attractive for the attacker too:) 'cause he (me) has no chance of winning against this semi-camping money collecting style that you and budist are up to. Wink

donlivake · Joined: 13 Feb 2005 Posts: 1

Its a very poor game.Just stay and press F5 and attack the newbs.
E un joc de cacat.Sa stau sa dau refresh sa iau bani de la aia varza,si aia mai buni de la mine.Echilibru zero. Cool

budist · Joined: 12 Feb 2005 Posts: 94

ask everybody how much i atack, i always spend my atacks, so don't say i camp, otherwise i would be at lvl 1!

budist · Joined: 12 Feb 2005 Posts: 94

btw vesslan:

(lost) vessslan 1 5 16135 0 days 01:37:44 ago
(lost) vessslan 1 5 39832 0 days 01:37:59 ago
(lost) artemis 1 3 22805 0 days 02:46:43 ago
(lost) artemis 1 4 30740 0 days 02:59:43 ago
(lost) vessslan 1 5 16307 0 days 05:27:29 ago
(lost) vessslan 1 4 42937 0 days 06:44:17 ago
(lost) vessslan 1 4 65831 0 days 07:05:02 ago
(lost) vessslan 1 4 18823 0 days 14:12:09 ago
(lost) vessslan 1 5 45702 0 days 14:12:22 ago
(lost) vessslan 0 2 5772 1 days 06:10:13 ago
(lost) vessslan 1 1 6668 1 days 07:02:42 ago
(lost) vessslan 0 0 32407 1 days 18:33:35 ago
(lost) vessslan 0 0 92334 1 days 18:35:05 ago

find other targets too

artemis · Joined: 21 Feb 2005 Posts: 14

(lost) vessslan 2 8 51709 0 days 05:27:46 ago
(lost) vessslan 2 6 91065 0 days 05:51:08 ago
(lost) vessslan 2 6 31229 0 days 08:17:09 ago
(lost) vessslan 2 6 35451 0 days 09:19:44 ago
(lost) vessslan 2 5 53675 0 days 09:39:32 ago
(lost) vessslan 1 5 42739 0 days 19:42:59 ago
(lost) vessslan 1 5 55228 0 days 19:44:16 ago
(lost) vessslan 1 3 10419 1 days 04:13:14 ago
(lost) vessslan 0 1 6885 1 days 09:34:39 ago
(lost) vessslan 0 1 19901 1 days 09:49:27 ago

He has "other targets" Mr. Green

... ME !

black_phantomro · Joined: 28 Feb 2005 Posts: 3

It should be a limit for attacking a certain player.Think that some one attacks you 10-20 times a day,and kills many arcers.Thimk that i have a problem and i can't login for a day or 2.When i come i find myelf with 0 defence.So it should be a limit,let say 5 times/24 hours